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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

May 24 @ 1:06 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Contract projections for the Flames' pending free agents
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 1:27 PM ET
Sign janko and the rest who cares
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

May 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
Great post Todd, always great to read what you have to say.

I have a couple concerns for our new coach Bill Peters.

1. The co-captaincy instated in Carolina during his tenure. To me, this decision scares me as it is an indicator of poor choices but maybe doing a co-captaincy isn't as dumb as it sounds?

2. He is suppose to give young players a chance. In the last game he coached CAN vs USA for IIHF Bronze he gave these young forwards the following ice time:

Pierre-Luc Dubois - 7:11 TOI
Tyson Jost - 6:29 TOI
Thomas Chabot - 7:39 TOI
Matt Barzal - 12:48 TOI

That doesn't look like much of a chance to me. Granted its just one game but it still concerns me.


Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

May 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
Sign janko and the rest who cares
- Redmile247


Yeah, pretty much
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
Yeah, pretty much
- ToddCordellCGY


I would be open to seeing a deal where say Brodie goes in a package for scoring up front and we see more of our D prospects get ice time ....could a rookie D men look that much worse than our second pairing last year ?
Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

May 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
Great post Todd, always great to read what you have to say.

I have a couple concerns for our new coach Bill Peters.

1. The co-captaincy instated in Carolina during his tenure. To me, this decision scares me as it is an indicator of poor choices but maybe doing a co-captaincy isn't as dumb as it sounds?

2. He is suppose to give young players a chance. In the last game he coached CAN vs USA for IIHF Bronze he gave these young forwards the following ice time:

Pierre-Luc Dubois - 7:11 TOI
Tyson Jost - 6:29 TOI
Thomas Chabot - 7:39 TOI
Matt Barzal - 12:48 TOI

That doesn't look like much of a chance to me. Granted its just one game but it still concerns me.

- zipfel


I don't think a co-captaincy is a big deal at all. Who is Vegas' captain? Look where they are.

As for No. 2, I think Jost was legitimately one of the worst players on the roster so it makes sense he wouldn't play much. Chabot more than 7 for sure but there are more established guys (Vlasic, Ekblad, etc.) that will obviously see more ice so I don't think that's a big deal either.

I do agree on Dubois and Barzal. The latter especially. He is an absolute weapon. I'd be giving him 16-17+ even on a stacked Canada team.

It's hard to make much of one game with a medal on the line, though. If you don't think someone is playing well, you're making the leash short.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
I'm curious if we sign any guys from ANA/CGY. Can Versteeg be a viable option as a third liner/trigger man on PP? Or is he done?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
Great post Todd, always great to read what you have to say.

I have a couple concerns for our new coach Bill Peters.

1. The co-captaincy instated in Carolina during his tenure. To me, this decision scares me as it is an indicator of poor choices but maybe doing a co-captaincy isn't as dumb as it sounds?

2. He is suppose to give young players a chance. In the last game he coached CAN vs USA for IIHF Bronze he gave these young forwards the following ice time:

Pierre-Luc Dubois - 7:11 TOI
Tyson Jost - 6:29 TOI
Thomas Chabot - 7:39 TOI
Matt Barzal - 12:48 TOI

That doesn't look like much of a chance to me. Granted its just one game but it still concerns me.

- zipfel


I think you’re overthinking here

It’s going to be a long summer if a bronze medal game in a meaningless tournament has you worried Bout how a coach will handle players who were not involved in this tournament
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
I think you’re overthinking here

It’s going to be a long summer if a bronze medal game in a meaningless tournament has you worried Bout how a coach will handle players who were not involved in this tournament

- Redmile247

The other question I would have is were those guys taking the tourney seriously? A lot of guys use it as a free trip. Maybe Peters was punishing them for something we never saw.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
I'm curious if we sign any guys from ANA/CGY. Can Versteeg be a viable option as a third liner/trigger man on PP? Or is he done?
- Lahey


He can be another letestu....might as well take a chance if he will sign there
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
The other question I would have is were those guys taking the tourney seriously? A lot of guys use it as a free trip. Maybe Peters was punishing them for something we never saw.
- Lahey


This tourney is like a highly competitive beer league tournament ...guys love to go to Europe and play some hockey ..,get wasted ...bang slutty euro chicks
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 1:49 PM ET
He can be another letestu....might as well take a chance if he will sign there
- Redmile247

At the end of the day we need someone in that spot and Versteeg would be cheap. I just don't know if we are still mad at him for leaving after the last pto
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

May 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
I think you’re overthinking here

It’s going to be a long summer if a bronze medal game in a meaningless tournament has you worried Bout how a coach will handle players who were not involved in this tournament

- Redmile247


You are likely right but i guess we will see what happens when the names change from Barzal and Dubois to Bennett and Jankowski.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
At the end of the day we need someone in that spot and Versteeg would be cheap. I just don't know if we are still mad at him for leaving after the last pto
- Lahey


Money talks ....all can be forgiven
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 2:06 PM ET
You are likely right but i guess we will see what happens when the names change from Barzal and Dubois to Bennett and Jankowski.
- zipfel


Yeah I hear ya

I think janko will be fine ...he will pass Bennett next year as a player ....Bennett likely will not be in cgy a year from now
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 24 @ 2:35 PM ET
If you're expecting Bill Peters to be giving his young guys a shot, you're looking in the wrong place.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
If you're concerned with World Championship stats, consider that it was once again a Bill Peters coached team that had poor goaltending and scored almost half of their goals in 2 games.

Outside of the games against Korea and Denmark, a team with McDavid, Barzal, Eberle, RNH, Horvat and O'Reilly managed to score less than 3 goals per game on average.

That sounds like Bill Peters hockey to me.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
If you're expecting Bill Peters to be giving his young guys a shot, you're looking in the wrong place.
- BINGO!


he's gonna do the same poop he did in Carolina, screw over his top 6 guys by attaching an anchor to them just so he can have a better 3rd line. Brouwer is gonna end up in the top 6.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
If you're concerned with World Championship stats, consider that it was once again a Bill Peters coached team that had poor goaltending and scored almost half of their goals in 2 games.

Outside of the games against Korea and Denmark, a team with McDavid, Barzal, Eberle, RNH, Horvat and O'Reilly managed to score less than 3 goals per game on average.

That sounds like Bill Peters hockey to me.

- BINGO!


Mike Smith is gonna despise him
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 24 @ 3:01 PM ET
Flagged my own post
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 24 @ 3:02 PM ET
Flagged my own post
- Lahey



look at this idiot
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
If you're expecting Bill Peters to be giving his young guys a shot, you're looking in the wrong place.
- BINGO!


Much like Rutherford and Eric staal peters will be the next ex hurricane to be bashed by the twelve fans that show up to games in rollee
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
If you're concerned with World Championship stats, consider that it was once again a Bill Peters coached team that had poor goaltending and scored almost half of their goals in 2 games.

Outside of the games against Korea and Denmark, a team with McDavid, Barzal, Eberle, RNH, Horvat and O'Reilly managed to score less than 3 goals per game on average.

That sounds like Bill Peters hockey to me.

- BINGO!


What do the world hockey championships in Europe and hockey in Carolina have in common .....players like to go there to have fun and don’t care about hockey
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
Mike Smith is gonna despise him
- Nucker101


I think Mike smith despises you
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 24 @ 3:23 PM ET
Sign janko and the rest who cares
- Redmile247


I think Hathaway and shore would be okay as well but not at the suggested salaries. They are somewhere around, maybe a bit above nhl min players.
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